The End
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Offline Okapidragon

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The End
« on: Dec 27, 2009, 07:50 pm »

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Re: The End
« Reply #1 on: Sep 02, 2010, 03:39 am »
I need help how do u make a script for it?I'm srry for this question i never made my own map.

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Re: The End
« Reply #2 on: Sep 02, 2010, 03:51 am »
There are numerous discussions in the Modding and Scripting fora. The easiest way is to get a script from another map, and BWSurveyor (all of which is in the Downloads section). Then just open the landscape in BWSurveyor and use the "copy coords" function to get coords for the various objects in the script, replacing the variables already there; I would use Express Map Editor, and if you highlight the function and press F1 you can see what every variable is in Express. You can take out anything you don't want to bother with, and tweak as you see fit; Then as you become more confident you can add things like rocks and forests and start learning the ropes more; Aside from learning to use some of the tools (Wood Creator being particularly useful for nice-looking woods, and a basic grasp of Python or C++ making it simple to make your own similar programs), everything that you need for scripting you can get from Surveyor and Express, and the best way to learn is by experience, which beats written guides (which can be useful nonetheless) any day. That's how I got started; Just fooling about in Surveyor and Express.

If you want to make your own landscapes, note that Surveyor is no good; Coastlines are almost impossible to get right (in fact I'm not sure that anybody has gotten it exactly right), and they also tend to look pixelated and unrealistic, with a jagged edge, in the final product (though this particular landscape is useful for adding valleys and mountains to :;): ), but with lndromat there are many methods I and others have found that can make excellent lands with flawless or nearly-flawless coastlines. But I wouldn't suggest moving onto landscapes until you have mapping down; Otherwise you'll just turn out a bunch of blank landscapes (like this one, lol :laugh2 ).

Good luck, and happy mapping. Hope to see some content from you soon.  :)
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Re: The End
« Reply #3 on: Sep 02, 2010, 05:21 pm »
yeahh okapi! that i've looking for!  :laugh2

thanks!

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Re: The End
« Reply #4 on: Sep 03, 2010, 01:04 am »
thanks for the help i might need help useing the tools that u recommened which im going to get now
when i do get mapping down i hope it will be good enough for Kays lol thanks a lot.

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Re: The End
« Reply #5 on: Sep 03, 2010, 01:11 am »
uhhh i tryed installing that and it says not enough disk space srry but i need help

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Re: The End
« Reply #6 on: Sep 03, 2010, 02:06 am »
>.< It means that your hard drive is full. Youcan do a disk cleanup from the control panel (at least in XP, I haven't really gotten in much depth in Vista and W7), or defrag, which takes a while but is worth it; Or you can go to Add/Remove programs and take off things you don't use; Or you can delete files you don't use. Or you can get a new hard drive, an external one; They are quite large these days, and if you don't save every image and download any file you come across, the average one (about 300GB last time I checked) should last the average person pretty much forever.

I feel your pain, though. This used to happen to me all the time, because I used to have a paltry 9 GB. :laugh2 How big is the hard drive you have?
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Re: The End
« Reply #7 on: Sep 03, 2010, 05:46 am »
12 gb i think but thats vista hp recovery idk what that is i have 1.39 gb left on that

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Re: The End
« Reply #8 on: Sep 03, 2010, 05:51 am »
im started to delete some useless stuff.but i dont know about the scriptED i thought that u can tweak on main maps like land 1 and add stuff on that script and mabe add gods to it to make it a skirmish.Do u have to get th script editor/creater?But i will try to get the thing u said hopefully it works.

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Re: The End
« Reply #9 on: Sep 03, 2010, 05:55 am »
i wanted to ask u a ? r u ever going to make ur own great fun awesome lol script for this or is it something u dont care about?

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Re: The End
« Reply #10 on: Sep 03, 2010, 06:16 am »
okay i will create a script if i will finish my Holy Land.

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Re: The End
« Reply #11 on: Sep 03, 2010, 07:49 am »
Jack, I honestly just made this because it seemed like a useful thing that had yet to exist; The closest thing was the kind-of-shoddy landscape that came with the Castle Project. So I'm probably not going to do much with this myself, no. The idea is that it is an easy base both for experimenting with different things in map scripts and for flexing your BWSurveyor/SculptEd muscles and making landscape features. But since I am now good at making landscapes using lndromat, I don't really need something like this, and in fact it would take longer for me because I have become more skilled in a different method.

Also, whereas that is a small hard drive, especially by today's standards, I think that 1.4 GB should be much, much more than enough. ??? In fact, all of the mapping and landscape tools I use in their respective folders are taking up a total of less than a GB, and if I recall correctly the game itself is only about .65 GB. So I'm actually not sure what the problem is. Was this before or after removing something else?

Anyway, it is a good practice at any rate to always keep your hard drive tidy, because a tidy hard drive makes things easier to access and speeds things up if you use a lot of virtual memory. I don't know about Vista, but in XP 200MB is the recommended minimum for virtual memory and if you have less than that you get warning messages. Funny to think that not long ago it was thought that only encyclopaedia databases would ever need more than one megabyte of hard memory, and now we're up to four gigs of RAM in most new computers.  :D
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Re: The End
« Reply #12 on: Sep 03, 2010, 10:05 pm »
thx it was before i havent tryied it yet but i will comment when i do,For Minas thx what will the scrip be called?

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Re: The End
« Reply #13 on: Sep 03, 2010, 10:10 pm »
damn it didnt work!!! after defraging and that it say sdk cant find enough disk space.It also says somin bout a 64-bit etc.

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Re: The End
« Reply #14 on: Sep 03, 2010, 10:12 pm »
Also i just got this computer and it had 750GB and hella ram.i still have 675GB left.Its Vista too.